American journalist Tucker Carlson repeatedly questioned a former U.K. member of Parliament as to why the country fought Hitler’s Germany in World War II.

The former Fox News host interviewed Jacob Rees-Mogg, a member of the Conservative Party who has supported sending aid to Ukraine after Russia invaded in 2022.

While it was predictable that Carlson would interrogate Rees-Mogg over his position on that issue, Carlson also asked whether fighting Hitler’s Germany was worth it.

Carlson said he opposes the killing of innocent civilians, which has happened in innumerable wars, including WWII. That prompted this exchange:

REES-MOGG: I think it’s very difficult to have fought the Second World War without innocent people being killed.

CARLSON: No one tried; I’ve never understood. Why fight the Second World War in the first place?

‘Well,’ Rees-Mogg said after a pause. ‘That’s a very fundamental question.’

Carlson then attempted to discuss World War I, but his interlocutor insisted on addressing its sequel:

REES-MOGG: Hitler would’ve taken as much as he could’ve done, as he was showing.

CARLSON: Well, Hitler said that 15% was once Germany and it was given to Poland at the Treaty of Versailles. That was German territory with Germans in it. That was his case. And by the way, that was true.

REES-MOGG: Except the Polish borders had been cut up by–

CARLSON: I’m just saying the idea that Hitler just randomly rolled into Poland is a lie, and everyone believes it because they know nothing about the actual facts.

But the truth is, Germany had big pieces of it carved off, including part of Prussia, and it was given to this other country. It infuriated the Germans. Maybe it shouldn’t have, but it did. And that was the justification for it. The U.K. had nothing to do with it at all.

REES-MOGG: Well, we had a treaty of alliance.

CARLSON: They destroyed their empire and their country fighting this war that they still pretend was a good idea, but it wasn’t.

REES-MOGG: It was fundamental. It was the classic good-versus-evil.

CARLSON: Has the U.K. benefitted from it?

REES-MOGG: We did the right thing.

CARLSON: Is it a better country than it was?

REES-MOGG: To have defeated Hitler? Yes.

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CARLSON: So, the U.K. is a better country now? It’s a healthier country now.

REES-MOGG: Otherwise, we’d all be speaking German.

CARLSON: Who cares?

REES-MOGG: I do.

CARLSON: There are a lot of people in Britain who can’t speak English. So, it would be nice to have like, at least a European language spoken in your country.

REES-MOGG: No, I see no advantage in speaking German over any other language. We want to speak English, thank you so much.

NOTE: At the height of World War II, Hitler’s Germany occupied over 20 nations. There was no requirement for anyone living in those countries to speak German.

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